A screen shot of a Zoom conversation hosted by MIT List Center in October 2020. On the lefthand side of the screen, a shot of Nayland Blake’s 2000 film, Starting Over, shows a bearded person in a white bunny suit filled with 147 lbs of navy beans, making the costume oversized and lumpy. On the righthand side of the screen are two screen shots, one of the artist and one of curator Jamillah James.